#include <iostream>
#include <string>
#include<vector>
using namespace std;
int main() {
//屎山代码
    string word, article;
    getline(cin, word);
    getline(cin, article);
    int count = 0, pos = -1;
    for (int i = 0; i < article.size(); i++)
    {
        if (article[i] >= 65 && article[i] <= 90)
        {
            article[i] = article[i] + 32;
        }
        if (i >= word.size())
            continue;
        if (word[i] >= 65 && word[i] <= 90)
        {
            word[i] = word[i] + 32;
        }
    }
    int n = word.size();
    if (article.size() > n)
        word.push_back(' ');
    for (int i = 0; i < article.size(); i++) {
        if (article.size() - i - 1 == n) {
            word.erase(word.end() - 1);
        }
        if (article.substr(i, word.size()) == word) {
            count++;
            if (pos == -1) {
                pos = i;
            }
        }
        if (i == 0)
            word.insert(word.begin(), ' ');
    }
    if (count == 0) {
        cout << "-1" << endl;
    }
    else {
        cout << count << " ";
        if (pos == 0)
            cout << pos << endl;
        else
            cout << pos + 1 << endl;
    }
    return 0;
}